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itemprop="articleSection" style="background:#f57f17" href="https://safetydifferently.com/category/safety-differently/">Safety Differently</a></span><h1 class="single_post_title_main" itemprop="headline"> Incident investigation: Learning vs Blaming</h1> <span class="single-post-meta-wrapper"><span class="post-author"><span itemprop="author"><img alt='Phillip Dowland' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/29bcc611bd9692248aac7ae617cd5d4ab4fa8d19356abfddc72526fa6f0dbecf?s=50&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/29bcc611bd9692248aac7ae617cd5d4ab4fa8d19356abfddc72526fa6f0dbecf?s=100&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' decoding='async'/><a href="https://safetydifferently.com/author/phillipdownland/" rel="author">Phillip Dowland</a></span></span><span class="post-date updated" datetime="30 July, 2019" itemprop="datePublished"><i class="fa fa-clock-o"></i>30 July, 2019</span><span class="meta-comment"><i class="fa fa-comment"></i><a href="https://safetydifferently.com/incident-investigation-learning-vs-blaming/#comments">7 Comments</a></span><a href="#" class="jm-post-like" data-post_id="4025" title="Like"><i class="fa fa-heart-o"></i>1</a><span class="view_options"><i class="fa fa-eye"></i>7.2k</span></span></div></div><div class="post_content" itemprop="articleBody"><div class="at-above-post addthis_tool" data-url="https://safetydifferently.com/incident-investigation-learning-vs-blaming/"></div><div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="alignleft is-resized"><img decoding="async" data-src="http://www.safetydifferently.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/blank-conifers-crossroad-1578750-1024x687.jpg" src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" alt="" class="wp-image-4026 lazyload" width="379" height="253"/><noscript><img decoding="async" src="http://www.safetydifferently.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/blank-conifers-crossroad-1578750-1024x687.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-4026" width="379" height="253" srcset="https://safetydifferently.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/blank-conifers-crossroad-1578750-1024x687.jpg 1024w, https://safetydifferently.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/blank-conifers-crossroad-1578750-300x201.jpg 300w, https://safetydifferently.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/blank-conifers-crossroad-1578750-768x515.jpg 768w" sizes="(max-width: 379px) 100vw, 379px" /></noscript></figure></div><p class="wp-block-paragraph">I would like to tell a story. The story is not in itself unique and I suppose many persons have seen or experienced similar. There are two ways to tell this story with two very different outcomes for both the organisation and individuals involved.</p><p class="wp-block-paragraph">Let me set the scene, a difficult project is under pressure to produce, machinery is not in one hundred percent working order, operatives have been moved to different sites due to the production difficulties. The crew are continually having to correct a mechanical issue located in an area at height. This has not gone unnoticed, in fact two days previous a senior leader had observed the crew struggling with this issue. However, the mechanical problem had not been reported through the organisational reporting system.</p><p class="wp-block-paragraph">So, we can see a site that is struggling and in hindsight perhaps ripe for suffering some kind of incident. In fact, on the day of the story no one was hurt, however the potential was certainly there.</p><p class="wp-block-paragraph">So, the mechanical issue at height had again occurred and to rectify it the operative, newly brought in to try to pull back the production issues, climbed without any fall protection controls.&nbsp;</p><h2 class="wp-block-heading">Story 1.</h2><p class="wp-block-paragraph">The person stood watching the works waiting for someone to make a health and safety violation, when out of the corner of his eye he saw the operative climb without any fall prevention/protection controls in place. In a blink of an eye the photo was taken and shared through the online reporting as a high risk dangerous condition. Due to the high risk categorisation this was cascaded through the organisation to senior management.</p><p class="wp-block-paragraph">Within hours the senior manager was demanding the answer to why the operative had carried this violation out, why had he thought that working at height like this was a good idea? With this level of emotion the investigation process was put into motion, it began with questions such as “what were you thinking of?”; “why did you break the rules” and by the end of the discussion the operative had been blamed and found guilty. Post investigation was almost like the sentencing at a crown court with the operative finding himself in front of the Operational and HR managers, receiving a written warning and being told that the rules are there to keep him safe and he must follow them.&nbsp;</p><h2 class="wp-block-heading">Story 2.</h2><p class="wp-block-paragraph">The person stood watching the works waiting for someone to make a health and safety violation, when out of the corner of his eye he saw the operative climb without any fall prevention/protection controls in place. In a blink of an eye the photo was taken and shared through the online reporting as a high risk dangerous condition. Due to the high risk categorisation this was cascaded through the organisation to senior management.</p><p class="wp-block-paragraph">Upon receiving the information, the senior manager, realising that the company had, in his words, “been given a get out of jail free card,” set in motion a period of essential learning for the organisation. During this time, a learning group was assembled to look at the facts around the incident. The group included not only health and safety representatives, but also operational staff both management and site based and independent personnel from a different division, the one thing in common was that all persons involved in this team new the work and how to do the work.&nbsp;</p><p class="wp-block-paragraph">During the <a href="https://safetydifferently.com/contemporary-safety-glossary/#learning-team">learning team</a> a real understanding of how the job was a. set up b. performed and c. where the systems in place had failed, was gained. This allowed the business to put system controls in place to help prevent any reoccurrence, thus mitigating against possible injury of staff.</p><h2 class="wp-block-heading">The Importance of Learning</h2><p class="wp-block-paragraph">What are the differences in the two approaches and how do they affect the outcome and the organisations continual improvement? Lets first look at the blame culture, when an individual or work group makes a mistake, in apportioning blame for this error we are, as Todd Conklin states in his book The 5 Principles of Human Performance, making it a choice of the individual/group. This approach does nothing for the improvement of the company and can in fact just be like a sticky plaster over the issue due to not actually identifying the system contributing factors and in turn can lead to a repeat of the incident; (Sidney Dekker; <a href="https://safetydifferently.com/contemporary-safety-glossary/#just-culture">Just Culture</a>; 2016).&nbsp;</p><p class="wp-block-paragraph">Let’s take for example the true story of a 24 year old graduate medical student, who in his first month was looking after a 16-year old boy who was undergoing palliative chemotherapy. This boy needed to have two different injections, one intravenously and a second by lumbar puncture into the spine. The intravenous drug was highly toxic, in fact it would be fatal to the patient if administered to the spine, it did however arrive on the ward in a nearly identical syringe to the other injection. Both these syringes were handed to the young doctor for the lumbar puncture procedure and both injected into the patient’s spine. Despite the efforts of the medical staff the young boy died a week later. The graduate was blamed and prosecuted for this tragic incident. Fortunately, this conviction was overturned, but because of the sticky plaster approach the real system failure was not learned from and the same mistake was made in a different hospital and another patient unnecessarily died.&nbsp;</p><p class="wp-block-paragraph">So, in just focusing on the operative working at height the system failures; non reporting of mechanical issues; production issues; new personnel and added pressure of the hope that they could turn the production around, were missed/not considered.</p><p class="wp-block-paragraph">What then does the approach to the initial issue from story 2 tell us? In the first instance a learning team was established. Evidence from <a href="https://www.rospa.com/occupational-safety/advice/safety-failure/">RoSPA research in the UK</a> show that a team based approach to incident learning is extremely powerful and can:</p><ul class="wp-block-list"><li>provide access to local, &#8216;expert&#8217; knowledge, particularly about operational issues;</li><li>support the building of trust and the development of &#8216;just&#8217; (open, fair) cultures;</li><li>promote learning about how to investigate in general (i.e. not just H&amp;S failures).</li></ul><p class="wp-block-paragraph">This helps give ownership and shows a level of trust from management that the workers play a huge part in the success of the operations. I wrote in a recent article how lean theory can tie into the new <a href="https://safetydifferently.com/contemporary-safety-glossary/#safety-differently">safety differently</a> way. In this article it was stated that the importance of realising that the workers are a hub of knowledge that when tapped into through a Kaizen (continuous improvement) method can smooth ongoing operations. This same process in incident investigations is vital. By respecting and trusting the workforce to take part in these learning sessions encourages openness whereas blaming is more than likely to make non reporting of problems a reality. Also utilising this operational knowledge can really lead to robust practices being put in place by identifying where systems are perhaps weak and breaking down during operations.</p><p class="wp-block-paragraph">Imagine then if the emotional response to the death of the 16 year old patient was changed to one of learning from the failure, looking at where the system had failed and led to the error from the young graduate and sharing these lessons with other medical facilities then perhaps another life would have been saved.</p><p class="wp-block-paragraph">In conclusion, we can see that response to incidents cause a level of emotions that can lead to investigations becoming witch hunts rather than true learning sessions for the <g class="gr_ gr_10 gr-alert gr_spell gr_inline_cards gr_disable_anim_appear ContextualSpelling multiReplace" id="10" data-gr-id="10">organisation</g> and when this learning opportunity is lost due to the need to find blame then <g class="gr_ gr_5 gr-alert gr_gramm gr_inline_cards gr_disable_anim_appear Grammar only-ins doubleReplace replaceWithoutSep" id="5" data-gr-id="5">opportunity</g> for repeat occurrences is only <g class="gr_ gr_9 gr-alert gr_spell gr_inline_cards gr_disable_anim_appear ContextualSpelling multiReplace" id="9" data-gr-id="9">to</g> real. 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srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d250f94294346145e5552bfa82a4f38abeed29d9a5c3833b3267896224ece995?s=160&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-80 photo' height='80' width='80' decoding='async'/><span class="comment-author-name" itemprop="name"><a href="http://www.sologic.com" class="url" rel="ugc external nofollow">Brian Hughes</a> </span><a class="comment-author-date" itemprop="datePublished" href="https://safetydifferently.com/incident-investigation-learning-vs-blaming/#comment-4046"><time datetime="2019-07-30T07:52:18-07:00">30 July, 2019 at 7:52 AM</time></a> <a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-4046" data-commentid="4046" data-postid="4025" data-belowelement="comment-4046" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Brian Hughes" aria-label="Reply to Brian Hughes">Reply</a></header><section class="comment-content comment" itemprop="text"><p>Nicely written! If you can establish and maintain that tone of learning over blame, the investigation will be much more productive. In my experience, sometimes the person who made the error is the one who has the hardest time letting go because, even if no one else on the team does, they blame themselves. It takes a powerful level of introspection and self-forgiveness &#8211; particularly if the outcome was egregious.</p></section></article></li><!-- #comment-## --><li class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="li-comment-4047"><article id="comment-4047" class="comment"><header class="comment-meta comment-author vcard"> <img alt='Søren Rosse Segel' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/a24a28573f197c4ca372627fd2d3b0d2172ab7bbce9e520ef907d4ced08c98eb?s=80&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/a24a28573f197c4ca372627fd2d3b0d2172ab7bbce9e520ef907d4ced08c98eb?s=160&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-80 photo' height='80' width='80' decoding='async'/><span class="comment-author-name" itemprop="name">Søren Rosse Segel </span><a class="comment-author-date" itemprop="datePublished" href="https://safetydifferently.com/incident-investigation-learning-vs-blaming/#comment-4047"><time datetime="2019-07-30T08:43:23-07:00">30 July, 2019 at 8:43 AM</time></a> <a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-4047" data-commentid="4047" data-postid="4025" data-belowelement="comment-4047" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Søren Rosse Segel" aria-label="Reply to Søren Rosse Segel">Reply</a></header><section class="comment-content comment" itemprop="text"><p>Can only agree to learnings in story 2, which is what we should strive to achieve. Another point is the absence of the possibility of stopping the work, rather than just reporting a possible hazardous situation. Both stories could have a fatal outcome regardless of the reporting. This is also a part of a healthy just and safety culture: The ability, trust and authority for anyone to stop a job, in case of a possible hazardous situation. The reporting person in both stories could have taken the picture and then stopped the job, and the doctor could have stopped if unsure of the contents of the syringes. I believe that a company, which has such Stop Work Authority and accepts it to the fullest, has the highest potential for maintaining a just safety culture.</p></section></article></li><!-- #comment-## --><li class="comment even thread-even depth-1" id="li-comment-4049"><article id="comment-4049" class="comment"><header class="comment-meta comment-author vcard"> <img alt='SJ Shaw' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2a7368265b26c2e3e84c49b07e58b498214825176a803186028547880ada73d1?s=80&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2a7368265b26c2e3e84c49b07e58b498214825176a803186028547880ada73d1?s=160&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-80 photo' height='80' width='80' decoding='async'/><span class="comment-author-name" itemprop="name"><a href="https://lostindystopia.com" class="url" rel="ugc external nofollow">SJ Shaw</a> </span><a class="comment-author-date" itemprop="datePublished" href="https://safetydifferently.com/incident-investigation-learning-vs-blaming/#comment-4049"><time datetime="2019-07-30T21:34:42-07:00">30 July, 2019 at 9:34 PM</time></a> <a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-4049" data-commentid="4049" data-postid="4025" data-belowelement="comment-4049" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to SJ Shaw" aria-label="Reply to SJ Shaw">Reply</a></header><section class="comment-content comment" itemprop="text"><p>Incident investigations may find that human error is to blame. However human error is often the result of systemic failure and should be the starting point of an investigation and not the end.<br /> We need to ask how or why a person or group behaved as they did by first examining the system, environment or other factors that may have contributed to the behavior.</p></section></article></li><!-- #comment-## --><li class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="li-comment-4080"><article id="comment-4080" class="comment"><header class="comment-meta comment-author vcard"> <img alt='Robert Latino' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/9998a1a35afee49b0452ac5b12b8ce5a2af2197bd4d08b5d59a6755bcdae2c7b?s=80&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/9998a1a35afee49b0452ac5b12b8ce5a2af2197bd4d08b5d59a6755bcdae2c7b?s=160&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-80 photo' height='80' width='80' decoding='async'/><span class="comment-author-name" itemprop="name"><a href="https://www.reliability.com/" class="url" rel="ugc external nofollow">Robert Latino</a> </span><a class="comment-author-date" itemprop="datePublished" href="https://safetydifferently.com/incident-investigation-learning-vs-blaming/#comment-4080"><time datetime="2019-08-12T20:54:58-07:00">12 August, 2019 at 8:54 PM</time></a> <a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-4080" data-commentid="4080" data-postid="4025" data-belowelement="comment-4080" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Robert Latino" aria-label="Reply to Robert Latino">Reply</a></header><section class="comment-content comment" itemprop="text"><p>This once again presumes that Dr&#8217;s. Conklin and Dekker&#8217;s characterization of an RCA/Investigation is accurate&#8230;according to them all RCA is 1) linear, 2) component-based and 3) results in a single cause. Unfortunately, that is a mischaracterization as field-proven, effective RCA approaches are conducted by veteran analysts on a daily basis.</p><p>Such analyses do incorporate and REQUIRE this learning perspective. They seek to understand why good people, make poor decisions at the time they did. They seek to understand the flawed organizational systems that influenced the decision-maker. They seek to understand the external socio-technical systems that influence internal management systems.</p><p>What they also require is evidence to back up what is concluded as opposed to allowing hearsay to fly as fact.</p><p>Hybrids of the two approaches exist and are being applied effectively, however that &#8216;fact&#8217; seems to be ignored. Perhaps we should amass a Learning Team to determine why that is?</p><p>Do Human Performance Teams Make RCA Obsolete?<br /> <a href="https://reliability.com/pdf/rca-vs-hpi-2017-rci.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://reliability.com/pdf/rca-vs-hpi-2017-rci.pdf</a></p><p>We all have unity in purpose and should work with each other to attain the same &#8216;ends&#8217;.</p></section></article></li><!-- #comment-## --><li class="comment even thread-even depth-1" id="li-comment-4091"><article id="comment-4091" class="comment"><header class="comment-meta comment-author vcard"> <img alt='Mike Behm' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/f37ccfc9a03588053a45604bd821e08fa6e44b93724227d1e5f1ff4c58da4d40?s=80&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/f37ccfc9a03588053a45604bd821e08fa6e44b93724227d1e5f1ff4c58da4d40?s=160&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-80 photo' height='80' width='80' decoding='async'/><span class="comment-author-name" itemprop="name">Mike Behm </span><a class="comment-author-date" itemprop="datePublished" href="https://safetydifferently.com/incident-investigation-learning-vs-blaming/#comment-4091"><time datetime="2019-08-23T00:04:53-07:00">23 August, 2019 at 12:04 AM</time></a> <a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-4091" data-commentid="4091" data-postid="4025" data-belowelement="comment-4091" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Mike Behm" aria-label="Reply to Mike Behm">Reply</a></header><section class="comment-content comment" itemprop="text"><p>Maybe there is a Story 3…<br /> The operative was considering engaging in a necessary task without any fall prevention/protection controls in place. Because he trusts his supervisor he has a conversation with her about the falling hazards, pre-task planning, and how to do the job with adequate tools and equipment. They plan the work together and engage in the task safely. The supervisor and the employee share the story with upper management as an example of safe thinking and team work. Upper management recognizes this is a good story to tell throughout the organization.</p></section></article></li><!-- #comment-## --><li class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="li-comment-13545"><article id="comment-13545" class="comment"><header class="comment-meta comment-author vcard"> <img alt='Jim Morrisn' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4bda18e166bf9fa2024ca4562f18ed81fa095688e6a7885441cf61ad6a1ff89c?s=80&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4bda18e166bf9fa2024ca4562f18ed81fa095688e6a7885441cf61ad6a1ff89c?s=160&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-80 photo' height='80' width='80' decoding='async'/><span class="comment-author-name" itemprop="name">Jim Morrisn </span><a class="comment-author-date" itemprop="datePublished" href="https://safetydifferently.com/incident-investigation-learning-vs-blaming/#comment-13545"><time datetime="2021-11-18T15:10:52-08:00">18 November, 2021 at 3:10 PM</time></a> <a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-13545" data-commentid="13545" data-postid="4025" data-belowelement="comment-13545" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Jim Morrisn" aria-label="Reply to Jim Morrisn">Reply</a></header><section class="comment-content comment" itemprop="text"><p>If you really want cooperation and openness, stop using the work &#8220;investigation&#8221;. What will get you better results,<br /> &#8220;I hear you made a mistake last night and I&#8217;m here to investigate the incident.&#8221;<br /> or<br /> &#8220;I hear you were involved in an event last night and I&#8217;m here to learn from your experience and try to prevent a recurrence.&#8221;<br /> ???</p></section></article><ol class="children"><li class="comment even depth-2" id="li-comment-17525"><article id="comment-17525" class="comment"><header class="comment-meta comment-author vcard"> <img alt='Jack Wilkinson' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/37e4cb7d7005930f6edf164411897d29e77f3fc85292c18bc83b5cf425dac9c1?s=80&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/37e4cb7d7005930f6edf164411897d29e77f3fc85292c18bc83b5cf425dac9c1?s=160&#038;d=blank&#038;r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-80 photo' height='80' width='80' decoding='async'/><span class="comment-author-name" itemprop="name">Jack Wilkinson </span><a class="comment-author-date" itemprop="datePublished" href="https://safetydifferently.com/incident-investigation-learning-vs-blaming/#comment-17525"><time datetime="2022-06-26T14:32:27-07:00">26 June, 2022 at 2:32 PM</time></a> <a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-17525" data-commentid="17525" data-postid="4025" data-belowelement="comment-17525" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Jack Wilkinson" aria-label="Reply to Jack Wilkinson">Reply</a></header><section class="comment-content comment" itemprop="text"><p>I couldn’t agree more with You Jim. Language is absolutely key. If we use less punitive language we get a lot more richer conversation. 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