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Was this person there during the hiring process, is there an HR person you can speak to about this situation? You sound like you haven’t been at the job very long something like this will only build up and cause you contention, you need to address it firmly and assertively. I would make something up like I am sorry that I cannot take calls on my personal cell phone because I only have the minimal amounts of minutes because I use it for mostly texting, if you would like to compensate me either by providing a company cell phone or allowing me to take additional time off in lieu of working on-call hours”.\\u003c/p\\u003e\",\"post_number\":6,\"post_type\":1,\"posts_count\":139,\"updated_at\":\"2013-09-19T19:46:33.000Z\",\"reply_count\":0,\"reply_to_post_number\":null,\"quote_count\":0,\"incoming_link_count\":8,\"reads\":0,\"readers_count\":0,\"score\":40.0,\"yours\":false,\"topic_id\":241167,\"topic_slug\":\"on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience\",\"display_username\":\"Skeeziix\",\"primary_group_name\":null,\"flair_name\":\"PepperLevel-Guajillo\",\"flair_url\":\"https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/spiceworks/original/4X/d/b/0/db0d4002a2986f7f83ef9d2604702d992e78877b.png\",\"flair_bg_color\":\"\",\"flair_color\":\"\",\"flair_group_id\":456,\"badges_granted\":[],\"version\":1,\"can_edit\":false,\"can_delete\":false,\"can_recover\":false,\"can_see_hidden_post\":false,\"can_wiki\":false,\"read\":true,\"user_title\":\"Guajillo\",\"title_is_group\":false,\"bookmarked\":false,\"actions_summary\":[{\"id\":2,\"count\":15}],\"moderator\":false,\"admin\":false,\"staff\":false,\"user_id\":1315513,\"hidden\":false,\"trust_level\":1,\"deleted_at\":null,\"user_deleted\":false,\"edit_reason\":null,\"can_view_edit_history\":false,\"wiki\":false,\"post_url\":\"/t/on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience/241167/6\",\"event\":null,\"reactions\":[{\"id\":\"sw_pepper\",\"type\":\"emoji\",\"count\":15}],\"current_user_reaction\":null,\"reaction_users_count\":15,\"current_user_used_main_reaction\":false,\"can_accept_answer\":false,\"can_unaccept_answer\":false,\"accepted_answer\":false,\"topic_accepted_answer\":null,\"author_expertises\":null,\"is_first_expert_reply\":false,\"is_expert_reply\":false},{\"id\":2426808,\"name\":\"IRJ\",\"username\":\"irj\",\"avatar_template\":\"/user_avatar/community.spiceworks.com/irj/{size}/726729_2.png\",\"created_at\":\"2013-09-19T19:47:30.000Z\",\"cooked\":\"\\u003cp\\u003eStart job searching. I have been in your position before and you’re in for a long haul. If you win this battle, you’ll lose others. Some people just don’t get IT. You’ll read my post a year later and say to yourself, I should have listened to that guy that was kissing that fish!\\u003c/p\\u003e\",\"post_number\":7,\"post_type\":1,\"posts_count\":139,\"updated_at\":\"2013-09-19T19:47:30.000Z\",\"reply_count\":0,\"reply_to_post_number\":null,\"quote_count\":0,\"incoming_link_count\":4,\"reads\":0,\"readers_count\":0,\"score\":20.0,\"yours\":false,\"topic_id\":241167,\"topic_slug\":\"on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience\",\"display_username\":\"IRJ\",\"primary_group_name\":null,\"flair_name\":\"PepperLevel-Goat\",\"flair_url\":\"https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/spiceworks/original/4X/b/d/f/bdf0ae80cc305311fb8b0174af7fc8dc449675f9.png\",\"flair_bg_color\":\"\",\"flair_color\":\"\",\"flair_group_id\":466,\"badges_granted\":[],\"version\":1,\"can_edit\":false,\"can_delete\":false,\"can_recover\":false,\"can_see_hidden_post\":false,\"can_wiki\":false,\"read\":true,\"user_title\":\"Goat\",\"title_is_group\":false,\"bookmarked\":false,\"actions_summary\":[{\"id\":2,\"count\":72}],\"moderator\":false,\"admin\":false,\"staff\":false,\"user_id\":2214735,\"hidden\":false,\"trust_level\":2,\"deleted_at\":null,\"user_deleted\":false,\"edit_reason\":null,\"can_view_edit_history\":false,\"wiki\":false,\"post_url\":\"/t/on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience/241167/7\",\"event\":null,\"reactions\":[{\"id\":\"sw_pepper\",\"type\":\"emoji\",\"count\":72}],\"current_user_reaction\":null,\"reaction_users_count\":72,\"current_user_used_main_reaction\":false,\"can_accept_answer\":false,\"can_unaccept_answer\":false,\"accepted_answer\":false,\"topic_accepted_answer\":null,\"author_expertises\":null,\"is_first_expert_reply\":false,\"is_expert_reply\":false},{\"id\":2426809,\"name\":\"Adam2595\",\"username\":\"adamprice\",\"avatar_template\":\"/user_avatar/community.spiceworks.com/adamprice/{size}/38329_2.png\",\"created_at\":\"2013-09-19T19:50:57.000Z\",\"cooked\":\"\\u003caside class=\\\"quote no-group\\\" data-username=\\\"Indian River Joel\\\"\\u003e\\n\\u003cdiv class=\\\"title\\\"\\u003e\\n\\u003cdiv class=\\\"quote-controls\\\"\\u003e\\u003c/div\\u003e\\n Indian River Joel:\\u003c/div\\u003e\\n\\u003cblockquote\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eStart job searching. I have been in your position before and you’re in for a long haul. If you win this battle, you’ll lose others. Some people just don’t get IT. You’ll read my post a year later and say to yourself, I should have listened to \\u003cstrong\\u003ethat guy that was kissing that fish!\\u003c/strong\\u003e\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003c/blockquote\\u003e\\n\\u003c/aside\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eHahaha to the fish comment\\u003c/p\\u003e\",\"post_number\":8,\"post_type\":1,\"posts_count\":139,\"updated_at\":\"2013-09-19T19:50:57.000Z\",\"reply_count\":0,\"reply_to_post_number\":null,\"quote_count\":0,\"incoming_link_count\":4,\"reads\":0,\"readers_count\":0,\"score\":20.0,\"yours\":false,\"topic_id\":241167,\"topic_slug\":\"on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience\",\"display_username\":\"Adam2595\",\"primary_group_name\":null,\"flair_name\":\"PepperLevel-Tabasco\",\"flair_url\":\"https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/spiceworks/original/4X/0/f/8/0f81f5baab430bc3041047ab85e592e6c28afb58.png\",\"flair_bg_color\":\"\",\"flair_color\":\"\",\"flair_group_id\":400,\"badges_granted\":[],\"version\":1,\"can_edit\":false,\"can_delete\":false,\"can_recover\":false,\"can_see_hidden_post\":false,\"can_wiki\":false,\"read\":true,\"user_title\":\"Tabasco\",\"title_is_group\":false,\"bookmarked\":false,\"actions_summary\":[{\"id\":2,\"count\":5}],\"moderator\":false,\"admin\":false,\"staff\":false,\"user_id\":2080894,\"hidden\":false,\"trust_level\":1,\"deleted_at\":null,\"user_deleted\":false,\"edit_reason\":null,\"can_view_edit_history\":false,\"wiki\":false,\"post_url\":\"/t/on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience/241167/8\",\"event\":null,\"reactions\":[{\"id\":\"sw_pepper\",\"type\":\"emoji\",\"count\":5}],\"current_user_reaction\":null,\"reaction_users_count\":5,\"current_user_used_main_reaction\":false,\"can_accept_answer\":false,\"can_unaccept_answer\":false,\"accepted_answer\":false,\"topic_accepted_answer\":null,\"author_expertises\":null,\"is_first_expert_reply\":false,\"is_expert_reply\":false},{\"id\":2426810,\"name\":\"Rockn\",\"username\":\"rockn\",\"avatar_template\":\"/user_avatar/community.spiceworks.com/rockn/{size}/34252_2.png\",\"created_at\":\"2013-09-19T19:51:03.000Z\",\"cooked\":\"\\u003cp\\u003eI wouldn’t do it. You are tied down enough being their 24x7 IT person, you should have some perks.\\u003c/p\\u003e\",\"post_number\":9,\"post_type\":1,\"posts_count\":139,\"updated_at\":\"2013-09-19T19:51:03.000Z\",\"reply_count\":0,\"reply_to_post_number\":null,\"quote_count\":0,\"incoming_link_count\":2,\"reads\":0,\"readers_count\":0,\"score\":10.0,\"yours\":false,\"topic_id\":241167,\"topic_slug\":\"on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience\",\"display_username\":\"Rockn\",\"primary_group_name\":null,\"flair_name\":\"PepperLevel-PepperX\",\"flair_url\":\"https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/spiceworks/original/4X/2/1/c/21cf63c292d65369c8dcb476ac0cc2a1ccfebcf0.png\",\"flair_bg_color\":\"\",\"flair_color\":\"\",\"flair_group_id\":474,\"badges_granted\":[],\"version\":1,\"can_edit\":false,\"can_delete\":false,\"can_recover\":false,\"can_see_hidden_post\":false,\"can_wiki\":false,\"read\":true,\"user_title\":\"Pepper X\",\"title_is_group\":false,\"bookmarked\":false,\"actions_summary\":[{\"id\":2,\"count\":4}],\"moderator\":false,\"admin\":false,\"staff\":false,\"user_id\":1956403,\"hidden\":false,\"trust_level\":2,\"deleted_at\":null,\"user_deleted\":false,\"edit_reason\":null,\"can_view_edit_history\":false,\"wiki\":false,\"post_url\":\"/t/on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience/241167/9\",\"event\":null,\"reactions\":[{\"id\":\"sw_pepper\",\"type\":\"emoji\",\"count\":4}],\"current_user_reaction\":null,\"reaction_users_count\":4,\"current_user_used_main_reaction\":false,\"can_accept_answer\":false,\"can_unaccept_answer\":false,\"accepted_answer\":false,\"topic_accepted_answer\":null,\"author_expertises\":null,\"is_first_expert_reply\":false,\"is_expert_reply\":false},{\"id\":2426811,\"name\":\"Kelly Armitage\",\"username\":\"101110101101\",\"avatar_template\":\"https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/e36b37/{size}.png\",\"created_at\":\"2013-09-19T19:56:39.000Z\",\"cooked\":\"\\u003cp\\u003eTell them you dropped your phone in the toilet. \\u003cem\\u003eshrug\\u003c/em\\u003e I wouldn’t be doing it, as others have said. As an employee or contractor you are not there to financially subsidize a company, and essentially they are asking you to.\\u003c/p\\u003e\",\"post_number\":10,\"post_type\":1,\"posts_count\":139,\"updated_at\":\"2013-09-19T19:56:39.000Z\",\"reply_count\":0,\"reply_to_post_number\":null,\"quote_count\":0,\"incoming_link_count\":3,\"reads\":0,\"readers_count\":0,\"score\":15.0,\"yours\":false,\"topic_id\":241167,\"topic_slug\":\"on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience\",\"display_username\":\"Kelly Armitage\",\"primary_group_name\":null,\"flair_name\":null,\"flair_url\":null,\"flair_bg_color\":null,\"flair_color\":null,\"flair_group_id\":null,\"badges_granted\":[],\"version\":1,\"can_edit\":false,\"can_delete\":false,\"can_recover\":false,\"can_see_hidden_post\":false,\"can_wiki\":false,\"read\":true,\"user_title\":null,\"bookmarked\":false,\"actions_summary\":[{\"id\":2,\"count\":5}],\"moderator\":false,\"admin\":false,\"staff\":false,\"user_id\":1254975,\"hidden\":false,\"trust_level\":1,\"deleted_at\":null,\"user_deleted\":false,\"edit_reason\":null,\"can_view_edit_history\":false,\"wiki\":false,\"user_suspended\":true,\"post_url\":\"/t/on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience/241167/10\",\"event\":null,\"reactions\":[{\"id\":\"sw_pepper\",\"type\":\"emoji\",\"count\":5}],\"current_user_reaction\":null,\"reaction_users_count\":5,\"current_user_used_main_reaction\":false,\"can_accept_answer\":false,\"can_unaccept_answer\":false,\"accepted_answer\":false,\"topic_accepted_answer\":null,\"author_expertises\":null,\"is_first_expert_reply\":false,\"is_expert_reply\":false},{\"id\":2426812,\"name\":\"Brian3408\",\"username\":\"briantrump2322\",\"avatar_template\":\"/user_avatar/community.spiceworks.com/briantrump2322/{size}/734266_2.png\",\"created_at\":\"2013-09-19T19:57:53.000Z\",\"cooked\":\"\\u003cp\\u003eYeah, I’m really not a fan of using my personal devices for work like that. To make things worse, when I was hired on I didn’t have a desk or a phone; they thought I could just work in the server room and use my cell phone. I set up a Google Voice number so I wasn’t handing out my personal cell phone number to the whole company as a work around, but never saw that as a reasonable long term solution. Growing pains I suppose.\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eI will definitely make the push for a company phone if they want to get a hold of me after hours or on weekends. At least then I would know that my personal phone stays as just that, personal. I don’t really have the option of a rotation type schedule since there aren’t any tech savvy users here that I would trust with anything; certainly none that I would want to hand out admin passwords to for network devices or domain accounts. I like the $20 a call idea though. I think that a company phone plus $20 per call if I’m not in the office (not including lunches on work days) seems like a fair middle ground if they want to get a hold of me.\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eAny other input or experiences are appreciated.\\u003c/p\\u003e\",\"post_number\":11,\"post_type\":1,\"posts_count\":139,\"updated_at\":\"2013-09-19T19:57:53.000Z\",\"reply_count\":0,\"reply_to_post_number\":null,\"quote_count\":0,\"incoming_link_count\":2,\"reads\":0,\"readers_count\":0,\"score\":10.0,\"yours\":false,\"topic_id\":241167,\"topic_slug\":\"on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience\",\"display_username\":\"Brian3408\",\"primary_group_name\":null,\"flair_name\":\"PepperLevel-Hatch\",\"flair_url\":\"https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/spiceworks/original/4X/d/b/0/db0d4002a2986f7f83ef9d2604702d992e78877b.png\",\"flair_bg_color\":\"\",\"flair_color\":\"\",\"flair_group_id\":457,\"badges_granted\":[],\"version\":1,\"can_edit\":false,\"can_delete\":false,\"can_recover\":false,\"can_see_hidden_post\":false,\"can_wiki\":false,\"read\":true,\"user_title\":\"Hatch\",\"title_is_group\":false,\"bookmarked\":false,\"actions_summary\":[{\"id\":2,\"count\":4}],\"moderator\":false,\"admin\":false,\"staff\":false,\"user_id\":2346038,\"hidden\":false,\"trust_level\":1,\"deleted_at\":null,\"user_deleted\":false,\"edit_reason\":null,\"can_view_edit_history\":false,\"wiki\":false,\"post_url\":\"/t/on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience/241167/11\",\"event\":null,\"reactions\":[{\"id\":\"sw_pepper\",\"type\":\"emoji\",\"count\":4}],\"current_user_reaction\":null,\"reaction_users_count\":4,\"current_user_used_main_reaction\":false,\"can_accept_answer\":false,\"can_unaccept_answer\":false,\"accepted_answer\":false,\"topic_accepted_answer\":null,\"author_expertises\":null,\"is_first_expert_reply\":false,\"is_expert_reply\":false},{\"id\":2426813,\"name\":\"IRJ\",\"username\":\"irj\",\"avatar_template\":\"/user_avatar/community.spiceworks.com/irj/{size}/726729_2.png\",\"created_at\":\"2013-09-19T20:01:14.000Z\",\"cooked\":\"\\u003caside class=\\\"quote no-group\\\" data-username=\\\"briantrump2322\\\"\\u003e\\n\\u003cdiv class=\\\"title\\\"\\u003e\\n\\u003cdiv class=\\\"quote-controls\\\"\\u003e\\u003c/div\\u003e\\n\\u003cimg loading=\\\"lazy\\\" alt=\\\"\\\" width=\\\"24\\\" height=\\\"24\\\" src=\\\"https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/spiceworks/user_avatar/community.spiceworks.com/briantrump2322/48/734266_2.png\\\" class=\\\"avatar\\\"\\u003e Brian3408:\\u003c/div\\u003e\\n\\u003cblockquote\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eYeah, I’m really not a fan of using my personal devices for work like that. To make things worse, when I was hired on I didn’t have a desk or a phone; they thought I could just work in the server room and use my cell phone. I set up a Google Voice number so I wasn’t handing out my personal cell phone number to the whole company as a work around, but never saw that as a reasonable long term solution. Growing pains I suppose.\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003c/blockquote\\u003e\\n\\u003c/aside\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eSounds like they really dont take your job seriously, man. You really need to lay down the law with them and look elsewhere while you plan to do that.\\u003c/p\\u003e\",\"post_number\":12,\"post_type\":1,\"posts_count\":139,\"updated_at\":\"2013-09-19T20:01:14.000Z\",\"reply_count\":0,\"reply_to_post_number\":null,\"quote_count\":0,\"incoming_link_count\":2,\"reads\":0,\"readers_count\":0,\"score\":10.0,\"yours\":false,\"topic_id\":241167,\"topic_slug\":\"on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience\",\"display_username\":\"IRJ\",\"primary_group_name\":null,\"flair_name\":\"PepperLevel-Goat\",\"flair_url\":\"https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/spiceworks/original/4X/b/d/f/bdf0ae80cc305311fb8b0174af7fc8dc449675f9.png\",\"flair_bg_color\":\"\",\"flair_color\":\"\",\"flair_group_id\":466,\"badges_granted\":[],\"version\":1,\"can_edit\":false,\"can_delete\":false,\"can_recover\":false,\"can_see_hidden_post\":false,\"can_wiki\":false,\"read\":true,\"user_title\":\"Goat\",\"title_is_group\":false,\"bookmarked\":false,\"actions_summary\":[{\"id\":2,\"count\":9}],\"moderator\":false,\"admin\":false,\"staff\":false,\"user_id\":2214735,\"hidden\":false,\"trust_level\":2,\"deleted_at\":null,\"user_deleted\":false,\"edit_reason\":null,\"can_view_edit_history\":false,\"wiki\":false,\"post_url\":\"/t/on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience/241167/12\",\"event\":null,\"reactions\":[{\"id\":\"sw_pepper\",\"type\":\"emoji\",\"count\":9}],\"current_user_reaction\":null,\"reaction_users_count\":9,\"current_user_used_main_reaction\":false,\"can_accept_answer\":false,\"can_unaccept_answer\":false,\"accepted_answer\":false,\"topic_accepted_answer\":null,\"author_expertises\":null,\"is_first_expert_reply\":false,\"is_expert_reply\":false},{\"id\":2426814,\"name\":\"John Underwood\",\"username\":\"underwood\",\"avatar_template\":\"/user_avatar/community.spiceworks.com/underwood/{size}/718077_2.png\",\"created_at\":\"2013-09-19T20:05:12.000Z\",\"cooked\":\"\\u003cp\\u003eThis GM sounds like an unreasonable guy. I can see no scenario where you walk out a winner by pressing for compensation in way of a company phone and/or time spent on call. I can see you being willing to suck it up for a year or so if you need the experience, but that’s the only reason to stick around. If I were in your shoes, I would work diligently but be looking for other opportunities.\\u003c/p\\u003e\",\"post_number\":13,\"post_type\":1,\"posts_count\":139,\"updated_at\":\"2013-09-19T20:05:12.000Z\",\"reply_count\":0,\"reply_to_post_number\":null,\"quote_count\":0,\"incoming_link_count\":1,\"reads\":0,\"readers_count\":0,\"score\":5.0,\"yours\":false,\"topic_id\":241167,\"topic_slug\":\"on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience\",\"display_username\":\"John Underwood\",\"primary_group_name\":null,\"flair_name\":\"PepperLevel-Pequin\",\"flair_url\":\"https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/spiceworks/original/4X/0/c/6/0c61c214d1188c596a64f8f0f0a15f3ad241d396.png\",\"flair_bg_color\":\"\",\"flair_color\":\"\",\"flair_group_id\":463,\"badges_granted\":[],\"version\":1,\"can_edit\":false,\"can_delete\":false,\"can_recover\":false,\"can_see_hidden_post\":false,\"can_wiki\":false,\"read\":true,\"user_title\":\"Pequin\",\"title_is_group\":false,\"bookmarked\":false,\"actions_summary\":[{\"id\":2,\"count\":17}],\"moderator\":false,\"admin\":false,\"staff\":false,\"user_id\":1538350,\"hidden\":false,\"trust_level\":2,\"deleted_at\":null,\"user_deleted\":false,\"edit_reason\":null,\"can_view_edit_history\":false,\"wiki\":false,\"post_url\":\"/t/on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience/241167/13\",\"event\":null,\"reactions\":[{\"id\":\"sw_pepper\",\"type\":\"emoji\",\"count\":17}],\"current_user_reaction\":null,\"reaction_users_count\":17,\"current_user_used_main_reaction\":false,\"can_accept_answer\":false,\"can_unaccept_answer\":false,\"accepted_answer\":false,\"topic_accepted_answer\":null,\"author_expertises\":null,\"is_first_expert_reply\":false,\"is_expert_reply\":false},{\"id\":2426815,\"name\":\"DallasTCarter\",\"username\":\"dallastcarter\",\"avatar_template\":\"/user_avatar/community.spiceworks.com/dallastcarter/{size}/717306_2.png\",\"created_at\":\"2013-09-19T20:07:09.000Z\",\"cooked\":\"\\u003caside class=\\\"quote no-group\\\" data-username=\\\"Indian River Joel\\\"\\u003e\\n\\u003cdiv class=\\\"title\\\"\\u003e\\n\\u003cdiv class=\\\"quote-controls\\\"\\u003e\\u003c/div\\u003e\\n Indian River Joel:\\u003c/div\\u003e\\n\\u003cblockquote\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eStart job searching. I have been in your position before and you’re in for a long haul. If you win this battle, you’ll lose others. Some people just don’t get IT. You’ll read my post a year later and say to yourself, I should have listened to that guy that was kissing that fish!\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003c/blockquote\\u003e\\n\\u003c/aside\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eAgreed. I’ve been in this boat and I needed the job for the experience at the time, but at least it was understood that I would get a company phone (and company laptop with 3G card) to handle any on call work outside of my regular 45 hour work week.\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eExpecting you to not get OT, comp time, or company telecomms so you at least don’t lose money on the deal is a bad sign.\\u003c/p\\u003e\",\"post_number\":14,\"post_type\":1,\"posts_count\":139,\"updated_at\":\"2013-09-19T20:07:09.000Z\",\"reply_count\":0,\"reply_to_post_number\":null,\"quote_count\":0,\"incoming_link_count\":2,\"reads\":0,\"readers_count\":0,\"score\":10.0,\"yours\":false,\"topic_id\":241167,\"topic_slug\":\"on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience\",\"display_username\":\"DallasTCarter\",\"primary_group_name\":null,\"flair_name\":\"PepperLevel-Cascabel\",\"flair_url\":\"https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/spiceworks/original/4X/2/0/7/207ea2d46f7246b81869f0ed5e1efcc636d50d66.png\",\"flair_bg_color\":\"\",\"flair_color\":\"\",\"flair_group_id\":455,\"badges_granted\":[],\"version\":1,\"can_edit\":false,\"can_delete\":false,\"can_recover\":false,\"can_see_hidden_post\":false,\"can_wiki\":false,\"read\":true,\"user_title\":\"Cascabel\",\"title_is_group\":false,\"bookmarked\":false,\"actions_summary\":[{\"id\":2,\"count\":2}],\"moderator\":false,\"admin\":false,\"staff\":false,\"user_id\":1410765,\"hidden\":false,\"trust_level\":1,\"deleted_at\":null,\"user_deleted\":false,\"edit_reason\":null,\"can_view_edit_history\":false,\"wiki\":false,\"post_url\":\"/t/on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience/241167/14\",\"event\":null,\"reactions\":[{\"id\":\"sw_pepper\",\"type\":\"emoji\",\"count\":2}],\"current_user_reaction\":null,\"reaction_users_count\":2,\"current_user_used_main_reaction\":false,\"can_accept_answer\":false,\"can_unaccept_answer\":false,\"accepted_answer\":false,\"topic_accepted_answer\":null,\"author_expertises\":null,\"is_first_expert_reply\":false,\"is_expert_reply\":false},{\"id\":2426816,\"name\":\"Brian3408\",\"username\":\"briantrump2322\",\"avatar_template\":\"/user_avatar/community.spiceworks.com/briantrump2322/{size}/734266_2.png\",\"created_at\":\"2013-09-19T20:09:40.000Z\",\"cooked\":\"\\u003cp\\u003eLooks like I missed a couple replies in there.\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eMost of this was not disclosed in salary negotiation. I figured it would only be reasonable to be reimbursed for my cell phone if I were to be using it for company business. The GM is pretty fair in terms of my ability to comp my hours if I work over 50 in a week or have a 12 hour day here or there. It is the off hours and weekends without compensation that are not reasonable to me.\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eMy salary is decent, not peanuts, but not worth 13x7 either. I have been keeping a pulse on the market, always have, but having only been with the company for about 8 months I hate to jump around. I do know that this company will not be a good long term fit for me though. They are simply too much in the small business mindset and they have grown to a medium sized business. I think they realize that IT is important, but they have no idea what it takes to do the job or what it’s like to be on call all the time. When discussing the cell phone usage with the GM, he compared my usage to the sales staff. That made it painfully obvious to me that he doesn’t have the slightest clue as to what this position is, or does.\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eI’m doing my best to take the experience along the way without getting steam rolled. This situation has me between a rock and a hard place, but I will be sticking to my guns on this one I think. Always on call just puts an uneasy feeling at the back of your mind and you instantly cringe as soon as your phone rings. That’s simply no way to live life outside of work.\\u003c/p\\u003e\",\"post_number\":15,\"post_type\":1,\"posts_count\":139,\"updated_at\":\"2013-09-19T20:09:40.000Z\",\"reply_count\":0,\"reply_to_post_number\":null,\"quote_count\":0,\"incoming_link_count\":2,\"reads\":0,\"readers_count\":0,\"score\":10.0,\"yours\":false,\"topic_id\":241167,\"topic_slug\":\"on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience\",\"display_username\":\"Brian3408\",\"primary_group_name\":null,\"flair_name\":\"PepperLevel-Hatch\",\"flair_url\":\"https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/spiceworks/original/4X/d/b/0/db0d4002a2986f7f83ef9d2604702d992e78877b.png\",\"flair_bg_color\":\"\",\"flair_color\":\"\",\"flair_group_id\":457,\"badges_granted\":[],\"version\":1,\"can_edit\":false,\"can_delete\":false,\"can_recover\":false,\"can_see_hidden_post\":false,\"can_wiki\":false,\"read\":true,\"user_title\":\"Hatch\",\"title_is_group\":false,\"bookmarked\":false,\"actions_summary\":[{\"id\":2,\"count\":9}],\"moderator\":false,\"admin\":false,\"staff\":false,\"user_id\":2346038,\"hidden\":false,\"trust_level\":1,\"deleted_at\":null,\"user_deleted\":false,\"edit_reason\":null,\"can_view_edit_history\":false,\"wiki\":false,\"post_url\":\"/t/on-call-compensation-for-a-solo-sys-admin-whats-your-experience/241167/15\",\"event\":null,\"reactions\":[{\"id\":\"sw_pepper\",\"type\":\"emoji\",\"count\":9}],\"current_user_reaction\":null,\"reaction_users_count\":9,\"current_user_used_main_reaction\":false,\"can_accept_answer\":false,\"can_unaccept_answer\":false,\"accepted_answer\":false,\"topic_accepted_answer\":null,\"author_expertises\":null,\"is_first_expert_reply\":false,\"is_expert_reply\":false},{\"id\":2426817,\"name\":\"Magnus369\",\"username\":\"magnus369\",\"avatar_template\":\"https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/{size}.png\",\"created_at\":\"2013-09-19T20:11:30.000Z\",\"cooked\":\"\\u003caside class=\\\"quote no-group\\\" data-username=\\\"briantrump2322\\\"\\u003e\\n\\u003cdiv class=\\\"title\\\"\\u003e\\n\\u003cdiv class=\\\"quote-controls\\\"\\u003e\\u003c/div\\u003e\\n\\u003cimg loading=\\\"lazy\\\" alt=\\\"\\\" width=\\\"24\\\" height=\\\"24\\\" src=\\\"https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/spiceworks/user_avatar/community.spiceworks.com/briantrump2322/48/734266_2.png\\\" class=\\\"avatar\\\"\\u003e Brian3408:\\u003c/div\\u003e\\n\\u003cblockquote\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eYeah, I’m really not a fan of using my personal devices for work like that. \\u003cstrong\\u003eTo make things worse, when I was hired on I didn’t have a desk or a phone; they thought I could just work in the server room and use my cell phone. I set up a Google Voice number so I wasn’t handing out my personal cell phone number to the whole company as a work around\\u003c/strong\\u003e, but never saw that as a reasonable long term solution. Growing pains I suppose.\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eI will definitely make the push for a company phone if they want to get a hold of me after hours or on weekends. At least then I would know that my personal phone stays as just that, personal. I don’t really have the option of a rotation type schedule since there aren’t any tech savvy users here that I would trust with anything; certainly none that I would want to hand out admin passwords to for network devices or domain accounts. I like the $20 a call idea though. I think that a company phone plus $20 per call if I’m not in the office (not including lunches on work days) seems like a fair middle ground if they want to get a hold of me.\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eAny other input or experiences are appreciated.\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003c/blockquote\\u003e\\n\\u003c/aside\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003e…\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eRefusing to provide the basic tools to perform your job? I take it no computer, desk or otherwise either, you were expected to provide those yourself? How many other employees have been expected to this?\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eI wouldn’t even bother negotiating. 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I have been in your position before and you’re in for a long haul. If you win this battle, you’ll lose others. Some people just don’t get IT. You’ll read my post a year later and say to yourself, I should have listened to that guy that was kissing that fish!\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003c/blockquote\\u003e\\n\\u003c/aside\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eAgreed. It sounds like the GM is trying to squeeze you for everything he can, which isn’t a bad thing in and of itself, but he’s basically trying to get two techs for the price of one which isn’t kosher. While you could try and address the situation by negotiating some form of reimbursement for your on call work, my recommendation would be to update your resume and find somewhere else to work. Places that start work relationships the way you’ve described seldom get better. While you might be able to work out some form of immediate resolution to the oncall question, long term they’re more likely to just find new ways to squeeze you.\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eAs for on-call experiences; my current positions has a rotating weekend only on call between 4 people with the expectation that only priority issues CALLED in get worked. We don’t actively monitor email or tickets over the weekend. That’s why it’s called “on-call”, go figure. We got backing on this all the way up to the SVP level.\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eMy previous place of employment had us on call during all non business hours with a weekly rotation between 6 or 7 people. They weren’t clear in their expectations of on-call when interviewing. It was presented in such a fashion as to indicate that only priority issues would need to be dealt with during on call hours. In reality they expected the on-call tech to effectively provide 24/7 support. Admittedly this was not without compensation. The on call tech received an hour of pay just for being on call and an additional 30 minutes of pay per issue. That doesn’t change the fact that it was a pain in the ass. I recall them getting rather irate with one of the junior techs who didn’t respond to an email, clearly marked as non urgent by the user, that came in at 10:45pm, while the tech was asleep. They never gave the senior techs issues about missing calls or emails while on call, however, because we wouldn’t put up with it and they didn’t want it to become the proverbial straw that broke the camels back and caused their senior tech team to walk out.\\u003c/p\\u003e\\n\\u003cp\\u003eBefore that I did a weekly on-call with a 4 person rotation. 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<p>Long story short, I’m a solo sys admin for a company comprising of two physical locations about 25 miles apart with an employee base of about 100. I’m near my capacity but can’t justify a second person on staff to help out just yet.</p>
<p>My boss expects me to be available to answer my cell phone (my personal cell phone, with no reimbursement for that either) during ANY business hours. This means I’m essentially on call 13 hours a day 7 days a week. This has only recently come to light as I was trying to be flexible in getting established with the company since they have never had an IT department internally before, just contracted guys here and there.</p>
<p>My boss (the GM) has already made it clear that he won’t be reimbursing me for my cell phone but expects to be able to get a hold of me during any business hours. My salary was negotiated on the premise of about 40 to 50 hours a week of work, on site, during business hours on a Monday through Friday basis. Obviously with project work or after hours maintenance necessary from time to time.</p>
<p>I am new to the “Solo Sys Admin” deal so I’m not really sure how to handle this, but I hardly think that it’s fair to expect me to be on call for over half of the hours in the day without any form of additional compensation. I have worked in a team with a 24/7 on call rotation before with compensation for that and I was provided a company phone, but this really isn’t the same situation; I’m trying to come up with something that would be a happy medium for the both of us without feeling like I’m completely enslaved by my job. Any suggestions or experiences would be appreciated.</p>
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<p>P.S. Couldn’t find an appropriate group to tag this with so I left it as “IT Jobs/Careers”</p>
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<p>Make them get you a phone, give them the first 10 minutes for free on phone calls, then charge them accordingly in half hour intervals for anything beyond.</p>
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<p>From my two examples.</p>
<p>One job was a “rotation” where my boss was a complete dick so I prob took call about 32 weeks out of the year, with no compensation.</p>
<p>Current gig is on a “hey if you want it take it” sistuation where its $20 the second I answer my phone, and its its a longer call we “negociate” a value of the call.</p>
<p>Both jobs were provided phones; and if they werent I dont have a phone or plan on getting one.</p>
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<p>I would tend to ignore his calls if I were made to use my personal phone. This is the way of the SOLO IT manager, but I would stick with trying to have them get you a company cell phone. If it s a company phone I would know that all of the calls are work related and give them priority.</p>
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<p>Unless you’ve got a pretty serious salary right now, I would negotiate either compensation for the phone (which he’s already said no to), on-call rates, and mileage for onsites after hours.</p>
<p>It sounds like you’ve wound up in a fairly bad spot, as it’s been made clear that you need the job, they don’t need you (or the position apparently).</p>
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<p>Salaried employees are usually paid on a 40 to 45 hour basis, being on-call for emergency situations are normal. If you are expected to be available no matter what and waiting alert at those times to be ready for a call to provide support; meaning you are not able to use that time freely to your own devices, then you should be compensated. In IT it is an understanding that there are requirements to do work outside the normal business hours but remaining on-call with the expectation that you will be available no matter what should be compensated for or at least you could take another day off in lieu of the time you worked outside of your normal hours. If this was not disclosed at the time of hire when you were negotiating salary then that is very shady business.</p>
<p>I would absolutely refuse to be called on my personal cell phone or have it used for these purposes unless they are paying for it in return for my services. If this was not disclosed at the time of hire when you were negotiating salary then that is very shady business. Was this person there during the hiring process, is there an HR person you can speak to about this situation? You sound like you haven’t been at the job very long something like this will only build up and cause you contention, you need to address it firmly and assertively. I would make something up like I am sorry that I cannot take calls on my personal cell phone because I only have the minimal amounts of minutes because I use it for mostly texting, if you would like to compensate me either by providing a company cell phone or allowing me to take additional time off in lieu of working on-call hours”.</p>
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<p>Start job searching. I have been in your position before and you’re in for a long haul. If you win this battle, you’ll lose others. Some people just don’t get IT. You’ll read my post a year later and say to yourself, I should have listened to <strong>that guy that was kissing that fish!</strong></p>
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<p>Hahaha to the fish comment</p>
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<p>I wouldn’t do it. You are tied down enough being their 24x7 IT person, you should have some perks.</p>
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<p>Tell them you dropped your phone in the toilet. <em>shrug</em> I wouldn’t be doing it, as others have said. As an employee or contractor you are not there to financially subsidize a company, and essentially they are asking you to.</p>
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<p>Yeah, I’m really not a fan of using my personal devices for work like that. To make things worse, when I was hired on I didn’t have a desk or a phone; they thought I could just work in the server room and use my cell phone. I set up a Google Voice number so I wasn’t handing out my personal cell phone number to the whole company as a work around, but never saw that as a reasonable long term solution. Growing pains I suppose.</p>
<p>I will definitely make the push for a company phone if they want to get a hold of me after hours or on weekends. At least then I would know that my personal phone stays as just that, personal. I don’t really have the option of a rotation type schedule since there aren’t any tech savvy users here that I would trust with anything; certainly none that I would want to hand out admin passwords to for network devices or domain accounts. I like the $20 a call idea though. I think that a company phone plus $20 per call if I’m not in the office (not including lunches on work days) seems like a fair middle ground if they want to get a hold of me.</p>
<p>Any other input or experiences are appreciated.</p>
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<p>Yeah, I’m really not a fan of using my personal devices for work like that. To make things worse, when I was hired on I didn’t have a desk or a phone; they thought I could just work in the server room and use my cell phone. I set up a Google Voice number so I wasn’t handing out my personal cell phone number to the whole company as a work around, but never saw that as a reasonable long term solution. Growing pains I suppose.</p>
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<p>Sounds like they really dont take your job seriously, man. You really need to lay down the law with them and look elsewhere while you plan to do that.</p>
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<p>This GM sounds like an unreasonable guy. I can see no scenario where you walk out a winner by pressing for compensation in way of a company phone and/or time spent on call. I can see you being willing to suck it up for a year or so if you need the experience, but that’s the only reason to stick around. If I were in your shoes, I would work diligently but be looking for other opportunities.</p>
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<p>Start job searching. I have been in your position before and you’re in for a long haul. If you win this battle, you’ll lose others. Some people just don’t get IT. You’ll read my post a year later and say to yourself, I should have listened to that guy that was kissing that fish!</p>
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<p>Agreed. I’ve been in this boat and I needed the job for the experience at the time, but at least it was understood that I would get a company phone (and company laptop with 3G card) to handle any on call work outside of my regular 45 hour work week.</p>
<p>Expecting you to not get OT, comp time, or company telecomms so you at least don’t lose money on the deal is a bad sign.</p>
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<p>Looks like I missed a couple replies in there.</p>
<p>Most of this was not disclosed in salary negotiation. I figured it would only be reasonable to be reimbursed for my cell phone if I were to be using it for company business. The GM is pretty fair in terms of my ability to comp my hours if I work over 50 in a week or have a 12 hour day here or there. It is the off hours and weekends without compensation that are not reasonable to me.</p>
<p>My salary is decent, not peanuts, but not worth 13x7 either. I have been keeping a pulse on the market, always have, but having only been with the company for about 8 months I hate to jump around. I do know that this company will not be a good long term fit for me though. They are simply too much in the small business mindset and they have grown to a medium sized business. I think they realize that IT is important, but they have no idea what it takes to do the job or what it’s like to be on call all the time. When discussing the cell phone usage with the GM, he compared my usage to the sales staff. That made it painfully obvious to me that he doesn’t have the slightest clue as to what this position is, or does.</p>
<p>I’m doing my best to take the experience along the way without getting steam rolled. This situation has me between a rock and a hard place, but I will be sticking to my guns on this one I think. Always on call just puts an uneasy feeling at the back of your mind and you instantly cringe as soon as your phone rings. That’s simply no way to live life outside of work.</p>
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<p>Yeah, I’m really not a fan of using my personal devices for work like that. <strong>To make things worse, when I was hired on I didn’t have a desk or a phone; they thought I could just work in the server room and use my cell phone. I set up a Google Voice number so I wasn’t handing out my personal cell phone number to the whole company as a work around</strong>, but never saw that as a reasonable long term solution. Growing pains I suppose.</p>
<p>I will definitely make the push for a company phone if they want to get a hold of me after hours or on weekends. At least then I would know that my personal phone stays as just that, personal. I don’t really have the option of a rotation type schedule since there aren’t any tech savvy users here that I would trust with anything; certainly none that I would want to hand out admin passwords to for network devices or domain accounts. I like the $20 a call idea though. I think that a company phone plus $20 per call if I’m not in the office (not including lunches on work days) seems like a fair middle ground if they want to get a hold of me.</p>
<p>Any other input or experiences are appreciated.</p>
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<p>Refusing to provide the basic tools to perform your job? I take it no computer, desk or otherwise either, you were expected to provide those yourself? How many other employees have been expected to this?</p>
<p>I wouldn’t even bother negotiating. I’d just look for a new job.</p>
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<p>Start job searching. I have been in your position before and you’re in for a long haul. If you win this battle, you’ll lose others. Some people just don’t get IT. You’ll read my post a year later and say to yourself, I should have listened to that guy that was kissing that fish!</p>
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<p>Agreed. It sounds like the GM is trying to squeeze you for everything he can, which isn’t a bad thing in and of itself, but he’s basically trying to get two techs for the price of one which isn’t kosher. While you could try and address the situation by negotiating some form of reimbursement for your on call work, my recommendation would be to update your resume and find somewhere else to work. Places that start work relationships the way you’ve described seldom get better. While you might be able to work out some form of immediate resolution to the oncall question, long term they’re more likely to just find new ways to squeeze you.</p>
<p>As for on-call experiences; my current positions has a rotating weekend only on call between 4 people with the expectation that only priority issues CALLED in get worked. We don’t actively monitor email or tickets over the weekend. That’s why it’s called “on-call”, go figure. We got backing on this all the way up to the SVP level.</p>
<p>My previous place of employment had us on call during all non business hours with a weekly rotation between 6 or 7 people. They weren’t clear in their expectations of on-call when interviewing. It was presented in such a fashion as to indicate that only priority issues would need to be dealt with during on call hours. In reality they expected the on-call tech to effectively provide 24/7 support. Admittedly this was not without compensation. The on call tech received an hour of pay just for being on call and an additional 30 minutes of pay per issue. That doesn’t change the fact that it was a pain in the ass. I recall them getting rather irate with one of the junior techs who didn’t respond to an email, clearly marked as non urgent by the user, that came in at 10:45pm, while the tech was asleep. They never gave the senior techs issues about missing calls or emails while on call, however, because we wouldn’t put up with it and they didn’t want it to become the proverbial straw that broke the camels back and caused their senior tech team to walk out.</p>
<p>Before that I did a weekly on-call with a 4 person rotation. Coverage was all non business hours and there was no compensation but a phone was provided by the company and this was clearly spelled out prior to beginning employment.</p>
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<p>Personally, I think you might be shortselling yourself by focusing on the personal phone for business bit. If the GM is willing to listen I would make an argument for increased compensation based on the oncall hours they are expecting of you. Being on call 24X7 means that you can’t take your family on a weekend trip because they expect you to respond if called. That is the bigger issue. If you can get a 5% pay differential for your on call hours (really your off hours), or a 10 - 20 overall pay increase for being on call all the time, you will be further ahead than if you ask to be paid per minute or per call.</p>
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<p>I’ve had bosses like this too, not fun. If you are salaried then its reasonable for them to expect you to be available after hours. I’ve heard of a few salaried NetAdmins getting overtime pay, but those are far and few between.</p>
<p>It is unreasonable for you to have to get calls on your personal phone without some sort of partial compensation.</p>
<p>Personally if I were in your situation I would probably be looking for another position and not rock the boat. Trying to renegotiate compensation without a safety job could easily wind up antagonizing the boss and lead to bad things…</p>
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