1272 lines
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1272 lines
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Last month, I made the following <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/lhochstein_if-this-years-reinvent-keynote-was-a-deep-activity-7386258302004948992-5M0h?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAAEZQIgB-ptsDlc14gdROq03fTvrsYyj4ZE">remark on LinkedIn</a> about the incident that AWS experienced back in October.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">To Amazon’s credit, there <em>was</em> a deep dive talk on the incident at re:Invent! OK, it wasn’t the keynote, but I’m still thrilled that somebody from AWS gave that talk. Kudos to Amazon leadership for green-lighting a detailed talk on the failure mode, and to <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-howard-aa26272/">Craig Howard</a> in particular for giving this talk.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In my opinion, this talk is the most insightful post-incident public artifact that AWS has ever produced, and I really hope they continue to have these sorts of talks after significant outages in the future. It’s a long talk, but it’s worth it. In particular, it goes into more detail about the failure mode than the <a href="https://aws.amazon.com/message/101925/">original write-up</a>.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This incident was triggered by a race condition, and race conditions are generally very difficult to identify in development without formal modeling. They had not initialized modeling this aspect of DynamoDB beforehand. When they did build a formal model (using TLA+) after the incident, they discovered that the original design didn’t have this race condition, but later incremental changes to the system did introduce it. This means that, at design time, if they had formally modeled the system, they wouldn’t have caught it then either, because it wasn’t there at design time. </p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Listening to this talk, there were elements of it that gestured in the direction of resilience engineering, which is why I enjoyed it so much. I already wrote about how Howard called out elements that made the incident harder. He also talked about how post-incident analysis can take significant time, and it’s a very different type of work than the heat-of-the-moment diagnostic work. In addition, there were some good discussion in the talk about tradeoffs. For example, he talked about caching tradeoffs in the context of negative DNS caching and how that behavior exacerbated this particular incident. He also spoke about how there are broader lessons that others can learn from this incident, even though you will never experience the specific race condition that they did. These are the kinds of topics that the <a href="https://resilienceinsoftware.org/">resilience in software community</a> has been going on about for years now. Hopefully, Amazon will get there. </p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And while I was happy that this talk spent time on the work of incident response, I wish it had gone farther. Despite the recognition earlier in the talk about how incident response was made more difficult by technical decisions, in the lessons learned section at the end, there was no discussion about “how do we design our system to make it easier for responders to diagnose and mitigate when the next big incident happens?”. </p>
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